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		<title>Comment on Are People Naturally Good or Evil? by Chris Cree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Cree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;How do you feel about the nature of men as far as naturally good or evil?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The Bible is pretty clear on that one, Rudy. Mankind is inherently sinful in Adam (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%205:12&amp;version=NLT;NIV;NKJV;AMP;KJV&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Romans 5:12&lt;/a&gt;).

It is not until we receive the gift of salvation that Jesus offers, and are reborn that we get a new nature. Sure we still sin after that transformation. But now that sinful behavior is contrary to our new nature. Before our sinful behavior was in line with our old nature (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%206:9-10&amp;version=NLT;NIV;NKJV;AMP;KJV&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;1 Corinthians 6:9-10&lt;/a&gt;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>How do you feel about the nature of men as far as naturally good or evil?</p></blockquote>
<p>The Bible is pretty clear on that one, Rudy. Mankind is inherently sinful in Adam (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%205:12&amp;version=NLT;NIV;NKJV;AMP;KJV" rel="nofollow">Romans 5:12</a>).</p>
<p>It is not until we receive the gift of salvation that Jesus offers, and are reborn that we get a new nature. Sure we still sin after that transformation. But now that sinful behavior is contrary to our new nature. Before our sinful behavior was in line with our old nature (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%206:9-10&amp;version=NLT;NIV;NKJV;AMP;KJV" rel="nofollow">1 Corinthians 6:9-10</a>).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are People Naturally Good or Evil? by Rudy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2011 04:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was a very thoughtful response! I have to admit, the whole predestination idea is often misunderstood by most people today or just not even known. It&#039;s also a tough idea to swallow if one isn&#039;t familiar with it, and I have to also admit that most churches in the South today would reject that idea. How do you feel about the nature of men as far as naturally good or evil? I&#039;m not a super historian or anything, but I know that Jean-Jacques Rousseau said that he believed humans were basically good and that society makes people turn to evil. Of course, we&#039;re talking about someone who wasn&#039;t the model Christian. Even some churches that believe everyone receives salvation have shied away from saying words like &quot;hell&quot; and &quot;sin&quot; in sermons. Maybe I just read too much about Jonathan Edwards!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a very thoughtful response! I have to admit, the whole predestination idea is often misunderstood by most people today or just not even known. It&#8217;s also a tough idea to swallow if one isn&#8217;t familiar with it, and I have to also admit that most churches in the South today would reject that idea. How do you feel about the nature of men as far as naturally good or evil? I&#8217;m not a super historian or anything, but I know that Jean-Jacques Rousseau said that he believed humans were basically good and that society makes people turn to evil. Of course, we&#8217;re talking about someone who wasn&#8217;t the model Christian. Even some churches that believe everyone receives salvation have shied away from saying words like &#8220;hell&#8221; and &#8220;sin&#8221; in sermons. Maybe I just read too much about Jonathan Edwards!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are People Naturally Good or Evil? by Chris Cree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Cree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2011 06:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heya Rudy!

The Bible is very clear that Jesus didn&#039;t just pay the price for those who will eventually believe. He paid the price for everyone, regardless of whether they believe or not.

&lt;blockquote&gt;He himself is the sacrifice that atones for our sins—&lt;strong&gt;and not only our sins but the sins of all the world&lt;/strong&gt;. -- &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20John%202:2&amp;version=NKJV;NLT;AMP;NIV;KJV&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;1 John 2:2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Jesus paid for the sins of the whole world. Even the vilest unrepentant degenerate has had his sin’s paid for. His salvation has been provided for.

The things that we do that get labeled as sin aren&#039;t what keep us out of heaven. That verse is very clear. Not only are believer&#039;s sins paid for. Everyone&#039;s sins, &quot;the sins of all the world&quot; were paid for when Jesus was killed on the cross.

What keeps people out of heaven is refusing to believe that. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. -- &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%2010:9&amp;version=NKJV;NLT;AMP;NIV;KJV&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Romans 10:9&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%202:8-9&amp;version=NKJV;NLT;AMP;NIV;KJV&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Salvation is a gift&lt;/a&gt; and a transaction is required for someone to see the benefits of a gift. No one will benefit from a gift that is only given. It also must be received by someone before they can enjoy the gift.

Salvation has already been given to everyone. Now it is up to us to receive it, plain and simple. Only then will we see the benefits of salvation.

I used to see things the way you do, Rudy. But now I am &lt;a href=&quot;http://empr.es/c1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;leaving Calvinism behind&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heya Rudy!</p>
<p>The Bible is very clear that Jesus didn&#8217;t just pay the price for those who will eventually believe. He paid the price for everyone, regardless of whether they believe or not.</p>
<blockquote><p>He himself is the sacrifice that atones for our sins—<strong>and not only our sins but the sins of all the world</strong>. &#8212; <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20John%202:2&amp;version=NKJV;NLT;AMP;NIV;KJV" rel="nofollow">1 John 2:2</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Jesus paid for the sins of the whole world. Even the vilest unrepentant degenerate has had his sin’s paid for. His salvation has been provided for.</p>
<p>The things that we do that get labeled as sin aren&#8217;t what keep us out of heaven. That verse is very clear. Not only are believer&#8217;s sins paid for. Everyone&#8217;s sins, &#8220;the sins of all the world&#8221; were paid for when Jesus was killed on the cross.</p>
<p>What keeps people out of heaven is refusing to believe that. </p>
<blockquote><p>If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. &#8212; <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%2010:9&amp;version=NKJV;NLT;AMP;NIV;KJV" rel="nofollow">Romans 10:9</a></p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%202:8-9&amp;version=NKJV;NLT;AMP;NIV;KJV" rel="nofollow">Salvation is a gift</a> and a transaction is required for someone to see the benefits of a gift. No one will benefit from a gift that is only given. It also must be received by someone before they can enjoy the gift.</p>
<p>Salvation has already been given to everyone. Now it is up to us to receive it, plain and simple. Only then will we see the benefits of salvation.</p>
<p>I used to see things the way you do, Rudy. But now I am <a href="http://empr.es/c1" rel="nofollow">leaving Calvinism behind</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Are People Naturally Good or Evil? by Rudy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rudy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2011 05:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was raised as a Presbyterian (basically, a Calvinist), and so I believe that all men are born inherently evil. I have been to very evangelical churches where people will say Christ came for &quot;everyone,&quot; but if Christ came for everyone, does that mean we can do whatever we want and Christ will still save us? No. Christ came for the people who were predestined to be saved. Adam sinned. Men are born with that original sin. Children are baptized to remove that original sin. Christianity, not just people like Calvin, is a religion that holds that men are born evil. Christ is the only human (and God, of course) who was born inherently good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was raised as a Presbyterian (basically, a Calvinist), and so I believe that all men are born inherently evil. I have been to very evangelical churches where people will say Christ came for &#8220;everyone,&#8221; but if Christ came for everyone, does that mean we can do whatever we want and Christ will still save us? No. Christ came for the people who were predestined to be saved. Adam sinned. Men are born with that original sin. Children are baptized to remove that original sin. Christianity, not just people like Calvin, is a religion that holds that men are born evil. Christ is the only human (and God, of course) who was born inherently good.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Awkward! by Korky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Korky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jun 2011 09:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Notice how they posted it after the rapture didn&#039;t happen.

Lots of Christians &quot;know&quot; Jesus will come back in their lifetime.

Hypocrites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Notice how they posted it after the rapture didn&#8217;t happen.</p>
<p>Lots of Christians &#8220;know&#8221; Jesus will come back in their lifetime.</p>
<p>Hypocrites.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Awkward! by Chris Cree</title>
		<link>http://chriscree.net/2011/05/awkward/comment-page-1/#comment-189907</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Cree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 12:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point, Phyllis. I added a link to a post I wrote Saturday morning because we should be &lt;a href=&quot;http://purposelydifferent.com/602/praying-for-the-un-raptured-followers-of-harold-camping/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;praying for them&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, Phyllis. I added a link to a post I wrote Saturday morning because we should be <a href="http://purposelydifferent.com/602/praying-for-the-un-raptured-followers-of-harold-camping/" rel="nofollow">praying for them</a>.</p>
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		<title>Comment on God and Dog by Wendy Francisco About Writing God &#38; Dog &#124; Chris Cree - My Personal Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy Francisco About Writing God &#38; Dog &#124; Chris Cree - My Personal Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 11:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] God and Dog   What Folks Are Saying: Chris Cree on God and DogWow on Kooky Conspiracy TheoriesPhyllis on God and DogPhyllis on Awkward!Jeremiah Hamilton on Are People Naturally Good or Evil? Chris on Twitter [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] God and Dog   What Folks Are Saying: Chris Cree on God and DogWow on Kooky Conspiracy TheoriesPhyllis on God and DogPhyllis on Awkward!Jeremiah Hamilton on Are People Naturally Good or Evil? Chris on Twitter [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on God and Dog by Chris Cree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Cree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 10:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heya Phyllis,

&lt;a href=&quot;http://cree.me/k7zpEo&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s a video&lt;/a&gt; where Wendy explains a little about the process when she wrote that song.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heya Phyllis,</p>
<p><a href="http://cree.me/k7zpEo" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s a video</a> where Wendy explains a little about the process when she wrote that song.</p>
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		<title>Comment on God and Dog by Phyllis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phyllis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 03:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Wendy...

i just got a puppy...and i believe in God.  the part where you sung they both wait for us...very touching and true.

love...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Wendy&#8230;</p>
<p>i just got a puppy&#8230;and i believe in God.  the part where you sung they both wait for us&#8230;very touching and true.</p>
<p>love&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Awkward! by Phyllis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phyllis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 03:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing this...and putting on a billboard...

feel bad for the poor people that he mislead...but the bible says that too..

Glad you did this...

love...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing this&#8230;and putting on a billboard&#8230;</p>
<p>feel bad for the poor people that he mislead&#8230;but the bible says that too..</p>
<p>Glad you did this&#8230;</p>
<p>love&#8230;</p>
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